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Author:  Seaweed [ Sun Oct 27, 2013 7:09 pm ]
Post subject:  OldBoy Ban Protest
OldBoy would like to protest his ban, he doesn't know how to make a thread apparently so I will.

Here's oldboys base on 22/10

Base_WarfareBBarrier10xTall 5
Concrete_Wall_EP1 15
Fence_corrugated_plate 4
Infostand_2_EP1 2
Ins_WarfareBContructionSite 7
Land_Fort_Watchtower 1
Land_HBarrier_large 1
Land_Misc_Cargo2E 7
Land_pumpa 1
Land_tent_east 1
Misc_Cargo1Bo_military 3
WarfareBCamp 1

Total Build Requirements
149 TankTraps
8 Sandbags
24 Wires
36 Scrap Metal
60 Wood


His Stashes:
Toolboxes - 1
Woodpile - 2


His Tents:
Toolboxes - 1
ItemEtool - 2
ItemSandbag - 48
ItemTankTrap - 16
Scrap Metal - 9
ItemWire - 8

His Cars:
ItemToolbox - 1
ItemWire - 1
ItemTankTrap - 1

Grand Totals
166 TankTraps
56 Sandbags
33 Wires
45 Scrap Metal
62 Wood





Here is 4 days later...


Base_WarfareBBarrier10xTall 2
Concrete_Wall_EP1 25
Infostand_2_EP1 2
Ins_WarfareBContructionSite 7
Land_Fort_Watchtower 1
Land_HBarrier_large 1
Land_Misc_Cargo2E 24
Land_pumpa 1
Land_tent_east 1
Misc_Cargo1Bo_military 4
WarfareBCamp 1

Total Build Requirements
252 TankTraps
6 Sandbags
18 Wires
81 Scrap Metal
84 Wood


His Stashes:
PartWoodPile - 2

His Tents:
ItemToolbox - 2
ItemSandbag - 24
ItemToolbox - 10
PartWoodPile - 31
ItemWire - 2
Scrap Metal - 9
ItemTankTrap - 21

His Cars:
ItemTankTrap -2
PartWoodPile - 3
Scrap Metal - 2


Grand Totals
275 TankTraps (+109)
30 Sandbags (-26)
20 Wires (-13)
92 Scrap Metal (+47)
119 Wood (+35)

Now as part of this ban I also looked forward a couple of days. To check for the gradual addition of new items that had been looted between the 4 days. The difference between each of the days is negligible. The new items themselves were all built one after the other within a very tight time frame, without the required supplies appearing present before hand. I also tried to speak with OldBoy to ask about how and when the pretty substantial number of new items were looted (by himself a solo player). OldBoys english is not too good maybe he can explain it better here. I need more information with date/times items were looted if they are legit. When I asked oldboy he just said he had been playing here a long time, but these items were acquired in less than 4 days.
Author:  GeordieMarv [ Mon Oct 28, 2013 1:00 am ]
Post subject:  Re: OldBoy Ban Protest
I don't want to get involved, and I only post because I like Oldboy and appreciate that you Seaweed are trying to be fair. All I can say is that is an awfully large amount of base building items. It took my clan at least 2 months to be able to build a base of our size, and this was with up to 4 clan members playing most days.

There seems to be quite an increase in items built compared to what's in the tents. I'm not saying it's not impossible for one guy to get that many supplies though. And [SFG] as a clan generally never store too many BB items in tents. Generally speaking, as soon as we get enough to build something...we build it. This stops BB supplies sitting in tents waiting to be stolen\destroyed. So this could explain why you're not seeing many resources stockpile in the tents.

Maybe it's not impossible for one guy to do this (looting\trading\stealing from other clans). But going off the object counts he obtained 109 tank traps in 4 days...which is about 27 per day. I'm not sure how many hours per day Oldboy plays...but that is an awful lot. To be honest there has been days when [SFG] have maybe found roughly 20 tank traps in one day...but that is with 3-4 of us playing for hours and hours with us spread out across the whole map to loot as many different cities as possible.

If your suspicious then I would say go with your gut instincts Seaweed. The fact you're even making a post on Oldboys behalf (because of his poor English & translation difficulties) and giving him the chance to explain himself speaks volumes.
Author:  thesmileyone [ Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OldBoy Ban Protest
Playing as an invidiaul sometimes I do wonder how you can get, on average, 26 tank traps in one day. I mean you don't even play for 24 hours straight, maybe 8-9 max on your own with no hunting... so that's 26/8 = 4.2 tank traps per hour.

After the maths it does seem possible perhaps?
Author:  Seaweed [ Thu Nov 21, 2013 1:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: OldBoy Ban Protest
thesmileyone wrote:
Playing as an invidiaul sometimes I do wonder how you can get, on average, 26 tank traps in one day. I mean you don't even play for 24 hours straight, maybe 8-9 max on your own with no hunting... so that's 26/8 = 4.2 tank traps per hour.

After the maths it does seem possible perhaps?


I was spectating oldboy for the majority of this 4 day period either in game or via the map, he rarely left his base over those 4 days...
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